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Persistent Negatives for Adversarial Black-Box On-Policy Distillation

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arXiv:2609.30864 (cs)
[Submitted on 25 Sep 2026]

Title:Persistent Negatives for Adversarial Black-Box On-Policy Distillation

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Abstract:Black-box On-Policy Distillation (OPD) seeks to improve a student from its own generations when the teacher provides sampled responses but not token probabilities. Adversarial distillation offers one route: it learns a discriminator over prompt-matched teacher and student responses and uses its score as the policy reward. However, sampling discriminator negatives from the latest student at each step couples the learned reward to a negative distribution that changes after every policy update. We address this moving-target problem with persistent-negative adversarial distillation, a live-pool method that replaces a fraction of each discriminator batch with historical, prompt-matched teacher--student comparisons. Under matched discriminator compute, historical comparisons train the discriminator, while GRPO remains on-policy with fresh student responses. Our analysis identifies the Bayes-optimal reward as a teacher-to-negative log-density ratio and, under explicit assumptions, shows how persistent negatives anchor the discriminator and reduce reward-estimation MSE relative to fresh-negative training. Across two student families, three judges, and four judged-chat benchmarks, persistent-negative adversarial distillation consistently improves performance over current methods at matched discriminator compute. It also yields smoother fresh-policy discriminator trajectories, with fewer below-chance dips. These findings identify the discriminator's negative distribution as an important design axis in black-box on-policy distillation.
Subjects: Computation and Language (cs.CL); Artificial Intelligence (cs.AI)
Cite as: arXiv:2609.30864 [cs.CL]
  (or arXiv:2609.30864v1 [cs.CL] for this version)
  https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2609.30864
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From: Haixu Ma [view email]
[v1] Fri, 25 Sep 2026 06:14:09 UTC (4,684 KB)
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