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Computation Over Geometry: Meaning Identity Is Computed, Not Shipped in the Embeddings

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arXiv:2609.28290 (cs)
[Submitted on 23 Sep 2026]

Title:Computation Over Geometry: Meaning Identity Is Computed, Not Shipped in the Embeddings

Authors:Jiaqi Deng
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Abstract:Meaning identity (whether two sentences say the same thing after wording changes) is treated in retrieval and RAG as a geometric fact about independently encoded sentence vectors. We show that, for frozen off-the-shelf encoders and language models, it is not: identity is computed when both sentences share one forward pass, and is not a property of the embedding geometry those systems ship. On overlap-matched PAWS-X, purpose-built encoders (BGE, E5, GTE, MiniLM, E5-Mistral-7B) reach English confirm AUC only 0.55-0.65 (dense peak 0.70). Independently encoded last-token states of Llama 3, Mistral, and Qwen do no better; late fusion of the two vectors stays near chance. The same probe on a joint forward pass reaches 0.90-0.96 from 1.5B to 32B, collapses under partner shuffle, is mid-depth, saturates near 0.94 by 3B, and appears more weakly in GPT-2 XL (0.76). The gap holds beyond Llama-style models on other causal LMs, bidirectional encoders (DeBERTa, RoBERTa), and encoder-decoders (Flan-T5, T5, BART). Fixed or linear readers over frozen independent encodings never unlock identity; nonlinear pair readers recover part of it only on the full 49k-pair PAWS train split (0.68-0.87). Off-the-shelf rerankers split: BGE-reranker-large reaches 0.94, while MS-MARCO and Jina stay at 0.55-0.64. Independently trained families compute the same relation and a 1.5B joint reader can distill it from unlabelled teacher scores, while no linear function of the teachers own independent vectors can. Bi-encoders can be fine-tuned to fit PAWS (0.87-0.93), but transfer and STS-B suffer. Cosine compares wording neighbourhoods; identity is a cheap computed operator, not a property of either sentence vector.
Comments: 12 pages, 2 figures. Code to be released
Subjects: Computation and Language (cs.CL)
Cite as: arXiv:2609.28290 [cs.CL]
  (or arXiv:2609.28290v1 [cs.CL] for this version)
  https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2609.28290
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From: Jiaqi Deng [view email]
[v1] Wed, 23 Sep 2026 15:36:20 UTC (56 KB)
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