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Hölder Policy Optimisation

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Group Relative Policy Optimisation (GRPO) enhances large language models by estimating advantages across a group of sampled trajectories. However, mapping these trajectory-level advantages to policy updates requires aggregating token-level probabilities within each sequence. Relying on a fixed aggregation mechanism for this step fundamentally limits the algorithm's adaptability. Empirically, we observe a critical trade-off: certain fixed aggregations frequently suffer from training collapse, while others fail to yield satisfactory performance. To resolve this, we propose HölderPO, a generalised policy optimisation framework unifying token-level probability aggregation via the Hölder mean. By explicitly modulating the parameter p, our framework provides continuous control over the trade-off between gradient concentration and variance bounds. Theoretically, we prove that a larger p concentrates the gradient to amplify sparse learning signals, whereas a smaller p strictly bounds gradient variance. Because no static configuration can universally resolve this concentration-stability trade-off, we instantiate the framework with a dynamic annealing algorithm that progressively schedules p across the training lifecycle. Extensive evaluations demonstrate superior stability and convergence over existing baselines. Specifically, our approach achieves a state-of-the-art average accuracy of 54.9% across multiple mathematical benchmarks, yielding a substantial 7.2% relative gain over standard GRPO and secures an exceptional 93.8% success rate on ALFWorld.

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