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[llama.cpp] Asymmetric KV q8/q4 cache: current caveats and discussion in GGML repo

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Probably most of you are aware that using anything other than -ctk q8_0 -ctv q8_0 / -ctk q4_0 -ctv q4_0 as startup options for llama.cpp leads to prompt processing on cpu instead of gpu for cuda at least. E.g. when we use the frequently suggested mix of -ctk q8_0 -ctv q4_0 pps tanks.

I have discussed this with a prop LLM and it suggested to add some slight modifications to the cuda source code of llama.cpp or use cmake -DGGML_CUDA_FA_ALL_QUANTS=ON .. which will take very long.

But coincidentially, user sanmai on github did a small eval and suggested to include the kv cache quant combo during compilation, even without FA_ALL_QUANTS, so that would be great.

Discussion is here, it is worth a read as the eval confirms that using the async 8/4 bit kv quant only costs 1.3% precision while saving more than half of memory compared to f16/f16:

https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/discussions/23470

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