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Musec: MomentUm SpEctral Clipping for Stable Muon-type Training

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arXiv:2609.11655 (cs)
[Submitted on 10 Sep 2026]

Title:Musec: MomentUm SpEctral Clipping for Stable Muon-type Training

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Abstract:Muon has emerged as a highly effective optimizer for large language model training, often achieving superior convergence and performance compared with the widely adopted Adam and AdamW optimizers. Nevertheless, Muon is prone to training instability due to its spectral flattening, manifested by loss spikes and unbounded growth of model weights. Existing approaches primarily rely on weight or attention-logit clipping, which require architecture-specific modifications and do not directly address instability across all model components. We propose MomentUm SpEctral Clipping (Musec), which replaces Muon's spectral flattening with spectral clipping: rather than setting all singular values of the momentum matrix to approximately one, Musec clips singular values that exceed a threshold while preserving the underlying spectral structure of the momentum. Our strategy provides an optimizer-level, architecture-agnostic mechanism for stabilizing Muon training. We further develop Soft Musec, an efficient implementation that uses a smooth spectral saturation function approximated by coupled Newton-Schulz iterations. Theoretically, we establish convergence guarantees for Musec in nonconvex nonsmooth stochastic optimization. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first convergence guarantee for Muon-type methods in the nonconvex nonsmooth setting. We provide empirical studies to show that Soft Musec consistently improves training stability over existing Muon variants across a wide range of learning rates and model sizes. Notably, Soft Musec remains stable in settings where existing Muon variants diverge, while matching their performance under well-tuned configurations.
Subjects: Machine Learning (cs.LG)
Cite as: arXiv:2609.11655 [cs.LG]
  (or arXiv:2609.11655v1 [cs.LG] for this version)
  https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2609.11655
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From: Zhuanghua Liu [view email]
[v1] Thu, 10 Sep 2026 15:00:01 UTC (343 KB)
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